I like Batman as well, but ultimately I'm a Superman fan, and there are people who prefer Batman to Superman. Some Superman fans do not like The Dark Knight Returns graphic novel. I haven't read it, but I've seen the clip from the animated film where Batman defeats Superman. I hate it because Frank Miller makes Superman out to be an arrogant, self-righteous guy, and deserves that punishment that Batman gives him. Everyone is like, Batman one, the only one who was able to defeat that self-righteous alien.
I think that when it comes to Batman or Superman, you either like one better than the other. I don't know anyone that likes them equally.
Given that Goyer and Nolan, clearly like Batman better, and Snyder seemed to compromise by saying, "Yes, this would make Superman so much more relevant."
It's like saying Batman is relevant, but Superman is not, and this poor secondary hero (who used to be the most popular) needs help....to be as 'cool' as Batman. :cmad:
With these recent interviews with Snyder last week, I'm really worried. If you want a man...or woman to direct Superman, that person should be passionate about it, but Snyder seems to me like he likes Batman more. He was reluctant to direct Man of Steel before. He had no problem with Batman, not to mention how the structure and style of his film is so similar to Nolan's batman trilogy.
I did not feel like this Superman in Man of Steel, and the story succeeded as well as the development of the Bruce Wayne character did in Batman Begins. They didn't explain Clark's motives, why he wanted to be a hero, and what is sole purpose was. Yeah it's to help people. We didn't have much dialogue from Clark in the first 50 minutes of the movie. Superman is supposed to be the king daddy as Snyder put it, but I really felt like this fresh new take on Superman has now made it look like Superman is the second best hero. We see Superman fight Faora, the tall giant, and Zod, and smashing into buildings. The film did not seem to indicate that he wanted to help people.
I'm not trying to argue about who is better, Batman or Superman, but what I fear the most if Snyder is a bigger fan of Batman than Superman, that seems to me like he wouldn't mind and agree to having Superman take the beating.
Like saying, "Superman is cool, but let's face it, he's not as cool as Batman. Superman is so boring because he's too powerful, but Batman is more realistic and relevant."
Even when Superman sort of became unpopular after the release of Burton's Batman (1989), in the end, even if you were a Batman fan, and not a fan of Superman, to everyone, Superman was still considered the ultimate hero in the end. Batman is dark, and more violent, whereas Superman will not kill.
I think the reason this film was not as successful as it should have been it its own right, because it was quite a slave to the success of Nolan's Batman trilogy, and because you had him and Goyer on board, and Goyer clearly stated that Superman is not "innately cool as Batman."
Superman doesn't really standout on his own so much in Man of Steel, that's what I think where this film lacked. There was something missing about the character. He's supposed to be very protective and always puts everyone else before him.
I think that when it comes to Batman or Superman, you either like one better than the other. I don't know anyone that likes them equally.
Given that Goyer and Nolan, clearly like Batman better, and Snyder seemed to compromise by saying, "Yes, this would make Superman so much more relevant."
It's like saying Batman is relevant, but Superman is not, and this poor secondary hero (who used to be the most popular) needs help....to be as 'cool' as Batman. :cmad:
With these recent interviews with Snyder last week, I'm really worried. If you want a man...or woman to direct Superman, that person should be passionate about it, but Snyder seems to me like he likes Batman more. He was reluctant to direct Man of Steel before. He had no problem with Batman, not to mention how the structure and style of his film is so similar to Nolan's batman trilogy.
I did not feel like this Superman in Man of Steel, and the story succeeded as well as the development of the Bruce Wayne character did in Batman Begins. They didn't explain Clark's motives, why he wanted to be a hero, and what is sole purpose was. Yeah it's to help people. We didn't have much dialogue from Clark in the first 50 minutes of the movie. Superman is supposed to be the king daddy as Snyder put it, but I really felt like this fresh new take on Superman has now made it look like Superman is the second best hero. We see Superman fight Faora, the tall giant, and Zod, and smashing into buildings. The film did not seem to indicate that he wanted to help people.
I'm not trying to argue about who is better, Batman or Superman, but what I fear the most if Snyder is a bigger fan of Batman than Superman, that seems to me like he wouldn't mind and agree to having Superman take the beating.
Like saying, "Superman is cool, but let's face it, he's not as cool as Batman. Superman is so boring because he's too powerful, but Batman is more realistic and relevant."
Even when Superman sort of became unpopular after the release of Burton's Batman (1989), in the end, even if you were a Batman fan, and not a fan of Superman, to everyone, Superman was still considered the ultimate hero in the end. Batman is dark, and more violent, whereas Superman will not kill.
I think the reason this film was not as successful as it should have been it its own right, because it was quite a slave to the success of Nolan's Batman trilogy, and because you had him and Goyer on board, and Goyer clearly stated that Superman is not "innately cool as Batman."
Superman doesn't really standout on his own so much in Man of Steel, that's what I think where this film lacked. There was something missing about the character. He's supposed to be very protective and always puts everyone else before him.
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