Gorilla Grodd already in play?

We may have already seen Gorilla Grodd in play (albeit offstage). Two scenes worth consideration. The first is in "Plastique" when Wells talks to Plastique in private back area and convinces her to go after General Eiling and kill him. The way Plastique responds in that scene seems very much like a suggestion that was reinforced by a telepathic mind control "push". The other scene is in "Flash vs Arrow" where (again in a private back area) Wells talks to Felicity trying to obtain the identity of the Arrow. He asks pointed questions that would tend to bring Oliver Queen's name to the forefront of her mind for easy reading. Granted, Wells would have the means (ie time travel, his future knowledge supercomputer, etc) to discover the Arrows identity without using Grodd, but then the scene seems unnecessary because by then Wells would seemingly already have had enough basic information about Team Arrow that he'd need to do his search.